florida, michael steele continues to contend that those rules are not fair, that they shouldn't have been winner take all. look, if he doesn't get to 1144, the way old credential committees and lawrence, i know i'm beginnigi giving you flashb it's going to be chaos. >> in a universe where there's the potential for this kind of shenanigans in dels, who benefits from that, the team with the best lawyers, the best back room operators? certainly the team that has both of those is going to be benefited over the other, but you know, it also is going to come down to who has the emotional connection if it came down to with the delegates at the detention. these candidates will have to get up and give a speech, the speech of their lives. all of the preplanned showbiz aspects of the convention where you're trying to drive a message, trying to connect with the american people will be totally out the window. it will be total chaos. it's anyone's guess what will happen. there's absolutely no modern precedent for it. >> chuck todd, steve schmidt and rachel maddow. thank you all for joining me tonig